That's the kind of thanks they get from the U.S. government. And that's what they get for trying to ask real questions outside of the allowed "town hall" "talking points" talking heads "debate". It's all bullshit people! We're through the "looking class".
Vote for real change: Vote Ron Paul. Or vote your conscience by staying in bed and rolling over and farting for change.
FART PROUDLY FOR CHANGE! GIVE PIECE OF MY ASS A CHANCE!
Next they won't use horses, they'll use beam weapons.
October 16, 2008
15 Arrested Outside Presidential Debate in Protest Led by Iraq Veterans Against the War
Outside the Obama-McCain debate, at least fifteen people were arrested at a protest organized by Iraq Veterans Against the War. IVAW member Nick Morgan was left bloodied and nearly unconscious after being trampled by a police officer on horseback.
As John McCain and Barack Obama prepared to face off in their third and final debate last night, outside the gates of Hofstra University, members of Iraq Veterans Against the War, backed by hundreds of demonstrators, protested at the campus gates.
At least fifteen people were arrested, including at least five members of IVAW, on charges of disorderly conduct. Nassau County Police on horseback trampled one member of IVAW, Nick Morgan, a veteran who served in Iraq for about a year. His condition is unknown.
The protest was organized by IVAW members Matthis Chiroux and Kris Goldsmith. Last week, Chiroux sent a letter to CBS debate moderator Bob Schieffer spelling out the demands of IVAW and demanding that at least two veterans be allowed entry into the debate to ask Senators Obama and McCain one question each. He did not receive a response.
Voices from the IVAW Debate, produced by Matt Hegedus and Richard Sackett.
AMY GOODMAN: We turn now to what happened in the streets last night outside, of the protest. This is Matthis Chiroux, speaking just as the protest outside the debate was to begin.
MATTHIS CHIROUX: Iraq Veterans Against the War is out here today at the final presidential debate to force the issue to these candidates that this government is not listening to or taking care of its veterans, as it promised to do when we all enlisted. As I told Detective Calver [sic.] yesterday during our meeting, “Sir, I hope the next time I see you you’ll be escorting me inside the debate and not putting a pair of handcuffs on me, because we’re both veterans, and you understand the importance of these issues.” And he seemed to concur.
Right now, five minutes to deadline, we are preparing to form it up and march to the main gate of Hofstra, where Kristofer Goldsmith and myself will be attempting to enter the debate and ask our question. The butterflies in my stomach are pretty big, but so is my determination and my resolve to have our voices heard. Our troops demand nothing less. What we do here mirrors the courage displayed on the battlefield. What we do here mirrors the courage displayed in every nonviolent protest in history.
IVAW MARCHERS: Left, left, left, right, right, left, the other left, left. It’s alright, it’s OK. It’s alright, it’s OK. Remember MLK. Remember MLK. He tried to lead the way. He tried to lead the way.
CROWD: Let them in! Let them in!
MATTHIS CHIROUX: One moment, one moment, so we can get clear. The two questions we wish to ask the candidates are: one, Barack Obama, you yourself have said that the war and occupation of Iraq is illegal. If, by your words, it is illegal, then it is not the right of servicemembers such as myself to refuse deployment and participation in Iraq; it is our responsibility. So, sir, as president, are you willing to go by your own words to back them up and support servicemembers refusing to participate in what you yourself have termed an illegal occupation? Kris Goldsmith.
KRISTOFER GOLDSMITH: My question is addressed to Senator John McCain. Senator, as a veteran who claims that he has been endorsed by every major veterans’ organization in America, you continually refused to fund the VA. In the years 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, you have refused or voted against VA funding. We currently have 1,000 servicemembers, 1,000 veterans, attempting suicide each month in this country. We have an average of seventeen or eighteen succeeding in killing themselves each month in this country. Senator McCain, what are you doing? Are you prepared to fully fund the VA system? Are you prepared to fully staff the VA system? And what are you going to do about your poor voting record according to Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America and the Disabled American Veterans?
CROWD: Let them in! Let them in! Let them in! Let them in! Let them in!
MATTHIS CHIROUX: Freedom! Justice! Democracy!
CROWD: Let them in! Let them in! Let them in! Let them in!
PROTESTER: You just stepped on his head!
PROTESTER: The police arrested the members of Iraq Veterans Against the War. And we were standing in solidarity with them in the line of people in this rally, and the police continued to charge their horses at the protesters, at the activists, at the civilians, at the people who care about this country, resulting in the stepping on an Iraq veteran, or at least one Iraq veteran, by a horse. And I believe that that veteran is receiving medical attention right now.
IVAW MEMBER: They were arrested for trying to use their freedom of speech, arrested for trying to ask a question that did not come through—you know, through the filtered process in which we elect our presidents. They’re elected to actually bring a little bit of grassroots democracy to America. And you saw tonight how veterans of this country are treated. And that’s a shame.
At least one, we believe two, were trampled, because another one was knocked down. His name is also Geoff Millard. And another woman was trampled, as well. And I have not seen injuries like that since Iraq, seeing him laying on the ground like that. I don’t need to go through that here in the streets. I don’t need to go through that here in America. I don’t need to relive that. And this is what I got tonight trying to peacefully bring a message to these candidates and which we’re trying to elect. And both of them claim that they support veterans. And this is how we got supported tonight, by being pushed back, trampled and arrested.
AMY GOODMAN: Special thanks to Matt Hegedus, Richard Sackett and Emily Forman for that report.
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17 October, 2008
15 October, 2008
The Great Game of Greed
As we wait for Obama and McCain to detail their plans to “fix” the economy, it would be a good time to turn off the propaganda feed into our brains via the media and do a macro-level review of the current economy as a whole.
That sounds daunting, but I don’t mean pulling out a textbook in economics from one of the standard perspectives, but rather taking a fresh look at the sordid show which passes for a financial system, but which is in reality a great gambling game based on usury, greed, exploitation and fraud. To get the proper perspective, imagine that you just landed on this planet and came from a place where benevolence and justice count, and a grounding in reality is considered important.
We are not supposed to think at that level, however, but instead take our thoughts from the headlines and talking media heads. We hear over and over that mortgages are at the bottom of the current crisis. We hear comparatively little of the role of derivatives--hedge funds, options, futures and the rest of it--which are pumped-up speculatives driving a fictitious gambling economy to expand to the greater glory of profit mega-margins: a sort of one-armed bandit that only initiated elites can pull and play with any hope of success. The derivatives game is set up to bounce out small-time players and the field remains open for the major hitters at higher levels—that is, for the feeders and front men for the economic wizards of the Cryptocracy itself.
Part of the roots of this illusory game are due to the surrender in the United States to banksters in 1913 with the creation of the Federal Reserve, which shifted power over money completely into the hands of a cabal of chortling millionaires. But the “creature of Jekyll Island” known as The Fed is not the originator of the exploitive basis of the economy, and we note that usury—loaning at interest—had been around a long time prior to that point. Usury is currently a given in the modern world, whereas several major civilizations of old had condemned and forbidden it as a form of injustice.
The economy in play is a gigantic bubble of fraud based on assigned numbers, not on real value tied to real goods and services. Prices are driven by speculators—gamblers—and the average hard-working man or woman has zero input into this monstrous and alien arena.
But gaming always has its risks. Insiders have long profited while most of the world plunges down the financial tubes of periodic “bad times,” and the attempt to pull off further profit and power is going on right now, including new twists of consolidation between The Fed, the U.S. government, and “United Europe.” Powerful gamblers are angling for greater control as they pose as the rescue crew; the masonic jest is worthy of a grand swindler like Horatio Bottomley.
But not to worry: Obama and McCain support the “bailout” (i.e, pending rape of the taxpayer) and even have other ideas! We can all relax, can’t we? After all, with a few tweaks, the economy might bounce back eventually, giving those on the lower tier a return to working themselves into the ground while the upper echelon runs its gambling and power plays, plundering and raping like the pirates in business suits that they are.
However, the risks inherent in the Great Game might spell blowback this time, and the entire fraudulent economy might tip the scales past the point of crypto control. Will it happen? Stay tuned—but not to the propaganda—and not to the “read my lips” statements of either would-be POTUS. Remember, it’s a magic show, and the rule is always simple: find the hand that is not moving. It's usually the one inside the bloody glove.
That sounds daunting, but I don’t mean pulling out a textbook in economics from one of the standard perspectives, but rather taking a fresh look at the sordid show which passes for a financial system, but which is in reality a great gambling game based on usury, greed, exploitation and fraud. To get the proper perspective, imagine that you just landed on this planet and came from a place where benevolence and justice count, and a grounding in reality is considered important.
We are not supposed to think at that level, however, but instead take our thoughts from the headlines and talking media heads. We hear over and over that mortgages are at the bottom of the current crisis. We hear comparatively little of the role of derivatives--hedge funds, options, futures and the rest of it--which are pumped-up speculatives driving a fictitious gambling economy to expand to the greater glory of profit mega-margins: a sort of one-armed bandit that only initiated elites can pull and play with any hope of success. The derivatives game is set up to bounce out small-time players and the field remains open for the major hitters at higher levels—that is, for the feeders and front men for the economic wizards of the Cryptocracy itself.
Part of the roots of this illusory game are due to the surrender in the United States to banksters in 1913 with the creation of the Federal Reserve, which shifted power over money completely into the hands of a cabal of chortling millionaires. But the “creature of Jekyll Island” known as The Fed is not the originator of the exploitive basis of the economy, and we note that usury—loaning at interest—had been around a long time prior to that point. Usury is currently a given in the modern world, whereas several major civilizations of old had condemned and forbidden it as a form of injustice.
The economy in play is a gigantic bubble of fraud based on assigned numbers, not on real value tied to real goods and services. Prices are driven by speculators—gamblers—and the average hard-working man or woman has zero input into this monstrous and alien arena.
But gaming always has its risks. Insiders have long profited while most of the world plunges down the financial tubes of periodic “bad times,” and the attempt to pull off further profit and power is going on right now, including new twists of consolidation between The Fed, the U.S. government, and “United Europe.” Powerful gamblers are angling for greater control as they pose as the rescue crew; the masonic jest is worthy of a grand swindler like Horatio Bottomley.
But not to worry: Obama and McCain support the “bailout” (i.e, pending rape of the taxpayer) and even have other ideas! We can all relax, can’t we? After all, with a few tweaks, the economy might bounce back eventually, giving those on the lower tier a return to working themselves into the ground while the upper echelon runs its gambling and power plays, plundering and raping like the pirates in business suits that they are.
However, the risks inherent in the Great Game might spell blowback this time, and the entire fraudulent economy might tip the scales past the point of crypto control. Will it happen? Stay tuned—but not to the propaganda—and not to the “read my lips” statements of either would-be POTUS. Remember, it’s a magic show, and the rule is always simple: find the hand that is not moving. It's usually the one inside the bloody glove.
13 October, 2008
Camp Pain Talking Points
1.
Cindy McCain says "I'm proud of my sons, but let me tell you, the day that Senator Obama cast a vote not to fund my son when he was serving sent a cold chill through my body. I would suggest that Senator Obama change shoes with me for just one day, and see what it means."
For The Record, Mrs. McCain...
The non-partisan group Disabled American Veterans gives John McCain a 20 percent rating for his voting record on veterans' issues. (It gives Barack Obama an 80 percent rating.)
The non-partisan group Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gives McCain a "D" grade for his voting record on issues such as additional funding for combat body armor, and additional funding for post-traumatic stress disorder and other medical treatment. (Obama earned a B +.)
2.
John McCain has made the racist remark that he will “whip his you-know-what” – meaning Barack Obama’s ass – in the next and final debate this week. McCain won’t be whipping anyone, since he can’t even lift his hands above his waist.
3.
Speaking of waste, did you know Sarah Palin pals around with terrorists? You betcha: Todd Palin. . .
“But if McCarthy-era guilt-by-association is once again a valid political consideration, Palin, it would seem, has more to lose than Obama. Palin, it could be argued, following her own logic, thinks so little of America's perfection that she continues to "pal around" with a man--her husband, actually--who only recently terminated his seven-year membership in the Alaskan Independence Party. Putting plunder above patriotism, the members of this treasonous cabal aim to break our country into pieces and walk away with Alaska's rich federal oil fields and one-fifth of America's land base--an area three-fourths the size of the Civil War Confederacy.
AIP's charter commits the party "to the ultimate independence of Alaska," from the United States which it refers to as "the colonial bureaucracy in Washington." It proclaims Alaska's 1959 induction as a state "as illegal and in violation of the United Nations charter and international law."
AIP's creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler, "I'm an Alaskan, not an American," reads a favorite Vogler quote on AIP's current website, "I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." According to Vogler AIP's central purpose was to drive Alaska's secession from the United States. Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark, "should be an independent nation."
Vogler was murdered in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad. The prior year, he had renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that, "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government." He cursed the stars and stripes, promising, "I won't be buried under their damned flag...when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home." Palin has never denounced Vogler or his detestable anti-Americanism.
Palin's husband Todd remained an AIP party member from 1995 to 2002. Sarah can be described in McCarthy-era palaver as a "fellow traveler." While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the AIP's 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska. The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP's 2000 Convention. She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the AIP's 2006 convention and she recorded a video greeting for this year's 2008 convention. In other words, this is not something that happened when she was eight!”
4.
Conservatives are beginning to distance themselves from McCain, saying if he really was a maverick he should have gone to Washington to propose free market solutions, not throw money at the problem.
5.
We’ve all asked the question, do we want Sarah Palin in the White House, but has anyone considered whether we want Todd Palin in the White House?
“The role played by Todd in carrying out his wife's vendetta was highly unusual. He had no official duties in government. He acknowledged, however, that he made numerous calls to state officials to press his case against the governor's ex-brother-in-law.
It's been well reported that Todd Palin’s involvement in his wife’s official business unsettled some Alaskans. He has been known to sit in on the governor's meetings, use her office for his own meetings and intervene in state business using his status as "First Gentleman." Clearly, he's a man with a lot of time on his hands.
What if he assumed the same role in Washington? Imagine Todd in a town that has no use for snow machines (which he loves to ride) or work for commercial fishermen (of which he is one, during the summer months). What would he do? Would he follow the vice president to her White House office? Join her meetings in the Situation Room? Sit in on her daily national security briefings?
…
Troopergate shows the Palins to be small-bore people unable to distinguish selfish personal interests from official responsibilities. Imagine the power of the U.S. government at their disposal.”
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2008/10/palin_too_close_for_comfort.html
6.
Here's a new one: McCain pals around with ACORN! He spoke at their rally in 2006!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/13/153851/92/91/629442
Tee hee!
People who live in glass houses shouldn't use whips!
Cindy McCain says "I'm proud of my sons, but let me tell you, the day that Senator Obama cast a vote not to fund my son when he was serving sent a cold chill through my body. I would suggest that Senator Obama change shoes with me for just one day, and see what it means."
For The Record, Mrs. McCain...
The non-partisan group Disabled American Veterans gives John McCain a 20 percent rating for his voting record on veterans' issues. (It gives Barack Obama an 80 percent rating.)
The non-partisan group Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gives McCain a "D" grade for his voting record on issues such as additional funding for combat body armor, and additional funding for post-traumatic stress disorder and other medical treatment. (Obama earned a B +.)
2.
John McCain has made the racist remark that he will “whip his you-know-what” – meaning Barack Obama’s ass – in the next and final debate this week. McCain won’t be whipping anyone, since he can’t even lift his hands above his waist.
3.
Speaking of waste, did you know Sarah Palin pals around with terrorists? You betcha: Todd Palin. . .
“But if McCarthy-era guilt-by-association is once again a valid political consideration, Palin, it would seem, has more to lose than Obama. Palin, it could be argued, following her own logic, thinks so little of America's perfection that she continues to "pal around" with a man--her husband, actually--who only recently terminated his seven-year membership in the Alaskan Independence Party. Putting plunder above patriotism, the members of this treasonous cabal aim to break our country into pieces and walk away with Alaska's rich federal oil fields and one-fifth of America's land base--an area three-fourths the size of the Civil War Confederacy.
AIP's charter commits the party "to the ultimate independence of Alaska," from the United States which it refers to as "the colonial bureaucracy in Washington." It proclaims Alaska's 1959 induction as a state "as illegal and in violation of the United Nations charter and international law."
AIP's creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler, "I'm an Alaskan, not an American," reads a favorite Vogler quote on AIP's current website, "I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." According to Vogler AIP's central purpose was to drive Alaska's secession from the United States. Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark, "should be an independent nation."
Vogler was murdered in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad. The prior year, he had renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that, "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government." He cursed the stars and stripes, promising, "I won't be buried under their damned flag...when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home." Palin has never denounced Vogler or his detestable anti-Americanism.
Palin's husband Todd remained an AIP party member from 1995 to 2002. Sarah can be described in McCarthy-era palaver as a "fellow traveler." While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the AIP's 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska. The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP's 2000 Convention. She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the AIP's 2006 convention and she recorded a video greeting for this year's 2008 convention. In other words, this is not something that happened when she was eight!”
4.
Conservatives are beginning to distance themselves from McCain, saying if he really was a maverick he should have gone to Washington to propose free market solutions, not throw money at the problem.
5.
We’ve all asked the question, do we want Sarah Palin in the White House, but has anyone considered whether we want Todd Palin in the White House?
“The role played by Todd in carrying out his wife's vendetta was highly unusual. He had no official duties in government. He acknowledged, however, that he made numerous calls to state officials to press his case against the governor's ex-brother-in-law.
It's been well reported that Todd Palin’s involvement in his wife’s official business unsettled some Alaskans. He has been known to sit in on the governor's meetings, use her office for his own meetings and intervene in state business using his status as "First Gentleman." Clearly, he's a man with a lot of time on his hands.
What if he assumed the same role in Washington? Imagine Todd in a town that has no use for snow machines (which he loves to ride) or work for commercial fishermen (of which he is one, during the summer months). What would he do? Would he follow the vice president to her White House office? Join her meetings in the Situation Room? Sit in on her daily national security briefings?
…
Troopergate shows the Palins to be small-bore people unable to distinguish selfish personal interests from official responsibilities. Imagine the power of the U.S. government at their disposal.”
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2008/10/palin_too_close_for_comfort.html
6.
Here's a new one: McCain pals around with ACORN! He spoke at their rally in 2006!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/13/153851/92/91/629442
Tee hee!
People who live in glass houses shouldn't use whips!
12 October, 2008
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